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Halo Reach => Intel => Topic started by: ColdGlider on May 30, 2010, 01:28:20
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Read this post (http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bungies-big/) on attackofthefanboy.com for an interesting patent filed by Bungie.
BNET user "SBTTLS" posted a message here (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=44576971) containing a link to a Bungie Aerospace web page at http://bungieaerospace.com/ (http://bungieaerospace.com/).
this blogger (http://haloreachgamenews.blogspot.com/2010/05/bungie-aerospace-per-audacia-ad-astra.html) has speculated on the phrase "Per Audacia Ad Astra", but I strongly disagree that it's a Star Trek reference.
My interpretation would be "Boldly Going to the Stars", which is a somewhat more literal interpretation than the classic Star Trek line and applies more directly to aerospace. I base this on the University of Notre Dame's online latin dictionary (http://archives.nd.edu/latgramm.htm) which assisted with confirming that "audacia" could be interpreted in a positive light in addition to meaning "audacious".
As June approaches, members interested in a possible Reach ARG might want to check in on the Bungie Aerospace just in case it gets tied in. (But keep your eyes fixed primarily on Bungie.net, since odds are that the first clue will be there.)
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I feel more, like...
Bungie's Next Game?
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Bungie has so much talent already hired, and a gigantic fanbase. If they wanted to head for the real stars, Bungie can pull on so many rich resources. Think of it;
1. Bungie makes a bunch of awesome games.
2. Millions of people fall in love with the games, and Bungie.
3. Now they have millions of people that they could call upon to do a favor (like "Everyone send in a couple of aluminum cans!" Bam! A few tons of aluminum, relitively cost free).
4. Bungie enters the space race.
5. ????
6. PROFIT!
7. World Domination!
All joking aside, this would be an ingenious way to do anything: get the power of the people.
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I took a peek over at halo.bungie.org and found two interesting interview. In this one (http://halo.bungie.org/misc/bungie_activision_interview_20100429.html), Joe Staten drops the Aerospace motto in the context of releasing games on multiple platforms:
Brian Jarrard: The internet is fickle, I'm sure by the time we have real stuff to show and talk about, available on more platforms than before, people won't care so much who ships it to them.
Joe Staten: PER AUDACIA AD ASTRA!!!
I side with those who believe Bungie Aerospace is a brand representing the comany's new game engine. The new engine is probably what is enabling the company to develop cross-platform titles, which would explain Staten's outburst.
Just thought I'd share...
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Just to make our heads spin: the final word of each of the three parts of the Divine Comedy is 'stars.'
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Piggy-backing on my previous post: Dante's use of the word 'stars' appears to be an homage of sorts to the real-life poet Virgil (a.k.a. Vergil), who serves as Dante's fictional guide in the Divine Comedy, and who originated the phrases, "sic itur ad astra" ("thus you shall go to the stars") and "opta ardua pennis astra sequi" ("they choose hardship that follow the stars on wings") in the Aeneid. Seneca modified/simplified the latter phrase to "per aspera ad astra" ("through difficulties to the stars"), which is, along with its variant, "per ardua ad astra" ("through hardship/struggle to the stars"), a common military and educational motto. So, I conclude...this new motto, "Through Boldness to the Stars," can be traced back to Virgil by way of Seneca.
P.S. !!!!One of Virgil's Georgics was about beekeeping. Perhaps "I Love Bees" wasn't as random as it appeared.
P.P.S. Since I last viewed his site, the blogger Cold references in his original post on this topic has updated his blog entry to include a little information on Virgil. Please pardon any redundancy!
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You've done your work good, Ark - You DID make my head spin! :o
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I've often pondered the Halo-bee connection. The look of the game often includes a honeycomb pattern. The ODST SI screens contained one in the lower left corner. Bungie's site uses the pattern as background design. The needler had a subtle honeycomb pattern on its finish in the Reach Beta (I have a saved picture.) "Data Hive". "I Love Bees".
I hate to bring up an image-related topic when I don't (currently) have the ability to pull them all together and display them for you, but I wanted to get the idea out there.
I can give you this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Apis_florea_nest_closeup2.jpg/800px-Apis_florea_nest_closeup2.jpg)
...which is an amazing image from the Wikimedia Commons. This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeycomb) Wikipedia article on honeycombs might be interesting to some.
Man, that image sure is striking. Perhaps we could incorporate a similar design with our site!
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Thank you, Sir Imppa! :laugh:
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Isn't there a honeycomb pattern in the background of the terminal messages in Halo 3?
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I swear the icons different than before! Correct me if im wrong? Here (http://www.bungieaerospace.com/)
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Might be a background change. ???
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Documented.
BTW the site tracks cookies? Eh.
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Scat, you're right (http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bungies-big/). It does appear to have changed.
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Scat, you're right (http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bungies-big/). It does appear to have changed.
Warning
In order not to compromise your security, this page will not be accessed
A virus or unwanted program was found in the HTTP data of the requested page.
Requested URL: http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/bungies-big/
Information: Contains recognition pattern of the JS/iFrame.yud Java script virus
I clicked the link and Avira said that.
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Go here (http://tess2.uspto.gov/) instead and click "New User Form Search." Then enter 'Bungie' as your search term. You can then choose to view the registered Aerospace trademark, which as Scat noticed, is slightly different from the one used on the Aerospace site.
The link in my previous post is the same link Cold provided in the initial post, so we may all want to scan ourselves. ;D
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Ya know, you could just save the image and broadcast it here.
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KIC, Scat! (but thanks... you beat me to it.)
You can get the full-res drawing from the official government site here (http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/PA_1_0_LT/OpenServletWindow?serialNumber=77950813&scanDate=2010030834070&DocDesc=drawing&docType=DRW¤tPage=1&rowNum=2&rowCount=3&formattedDate=04-Mar-2010).
Attached is the website image as it appeared today (and yesterday 2010.06.07 IIRC).
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I'm having trouble with this post, let's try again.
I took the Bungie Aerospace Image and changed the hue to 121 and saturation to 90 and noticed an odd red pattern in the top right.
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Being a Team Vergil member, the square pattern made me sit up.
Attached find my renderings of the red blobs on the left and right.
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And here are the Transliterations. Note the leftside seems to be 9 x 13, but there may be preceding or trailing zeroes. Likewise for the right side one which has a more symmetrical 6X6 layout.
Left blob 9x13:
111111000
001011000
000011000
000111101
000011000
001111110
000100100
000001100
001001100
001001110
001001010
000001000
000010010
Rightside 6x6:
100101
011100
000111
001111
001111
001110
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Moose, I think you have an itchy decryption finger! I'm getting Gherjsz for bin=>ASCII interpretations of your data. But what an eye you have! +KFY
As a consolation prize: did you look at the banner here (http://www.gruntspajamas.com)?
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Gorgeous banner. Is that sigil a flaming grunt head?
Also, do we have an archive of the first Bungie Aerospace image to compare the green/blue one to?
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I think that I
miss undestood misunderstood. When it was said that the page was different, but I swear the background has changed.
>> Spelling correction by bored admin. Please KIC outside the GP.
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That pattern is almost impossible to see without shopping, Moose...IT MEANS IT'S HIDDEN! :o (Jumping to conclusion?)
I think I see a human in there...and a dot. Kinda like in cave paintings. Then again, it could just be a paper anomaly :P.
Anything else like that in the picture?
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Gorgeous banner.
I take it you found your message, then?
Is that sigil a flaming grunt head?
Pulse Cloud's non-forum-crashing image, to be precise. He swears (http://www.gruntspajamas.com/forum/index.php?topic=690.msg4673#msg4673) that it's just a "heptagon".
Also, do we have an archive of the first Bungie Aerospace image to compare the green/blue one to?
I don't. I had thought I diligently saved it. I was apparently wrong. Did anyone else capture the orginal Bungie Aerospace (BA) website background to their PC? If so, can you please post it so that we can compare?
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(If you don't want to hear me go on about the background change, skip this)
IIRC, the background looked like orange tinged clouds, almost like Dunder's shopped image.
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Inverting the colors leads to interesting results. Look at it in full size to see what I mean :o
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If you just stare at the thumbnail image of my attachment in this previous post (http://www.gruntspajamas.com/forum/index.php?topic=704.msg4959#msg4959), you can see that there is a large shadow roughly centered in the background. It looks continental to me, like it could be the view of a planet from orbit.
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Dunder, this is a great discovery! Good work! I found lots of other dots in other places. Whole picture here.
I am so mad to think that none of us got a picture of the old one! Ah, well, it might be the same anyways. The dots are on the backround, and supposedly, only the picture changed.
Anyways, bungie may have saw us watching it, and changed it so they could put in the binary!
Btw, does anyone get the second picture when they copy the image? O_O
EDIT: Attached easier file to read. 3rd picture.
EDIT EDIT: Inverting the colors leads to interesting results. Look at it in full size to see what I mean
When i invert the colors, it inverts it. It doesnt do that.
EDIT EDIT EDIT: That image i got from copying? Well it inverts to traditional bungie colors, and it looks good. Except the fact that theres no backround so it goes white on white.
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The SGP administration staff is not responsible for psychiatry bills resulting from fruitless attempts to find meaning in random image distortions.
I honestly think you'd have better luck finding a secret message in one of Enigma's logos. As a matter of fact, I know you could.
It's nice to know that the dogs are barking on their leashes, waiting to be let loose on Reach! No more drooling and whining in the hopes that we'll get thrown a bone. Here's hoping for a juicy steak that the cryptoanalysts here can sink their (brain?)teeth into.
I'm actually getting a little worried that ARGs may have gone the way of other cost-cutting victims of the current American economic condition. ODST got a little BNET action with the wallpapers and SI logos, but unless I'm mistaken we didn't get the full-on ARG treatment... those people were hired to create "Sadie's Story" (c.f. PAX Panel vids on BuTube).
I realize that Reach is a full 3-year dev cycle title and all... but maybe the big-dollar, live-action commerical is where all the fan-service marketing money went this time. Just a guess.
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Well, when you're looking for ARGs and then you change the saturation of a picture and see perfect squares, its kinda intriguing.
CG, you never know how sneaky Bungies gonna be.
And btw, this is when we predicted the ARG to come. I think we should have full eyes up.
BTW: CG i spotted your honey comb secret... but i kept messing up using protocol 151 so i took a break from it, so i didnt get the message and dont know how to decrypt it.
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Mmk, started looking into this, and I'll update this post as I go along.
First off, I'm going into the code, and the stuff we see there is a transparent overlay (http://www.bungieaerospace.com/images/splash/enterOverlay.gif)
In this overlay, It's pretty default, except there's one pixel that's randomly out there at coordinates 315,498 (which should be viewable even in Paint if you've got navigation on in the bottom corner)
Next, I found it's using a javascript code named google-analytics.com/ga.js (http://google-analytics.com/ga.js), which is probably some default thing, I don't look into Javascript, so that's up there to look at (save to desktop or something, then open in Notepad so it doesn't run).
For the background, they used a clever trick so it couldn't be directly copied. They reference a CSS layout (just a webpage type for those unfamiliar) which can be found here (http://www.bungieaerospace.com/css/splashpage.css), which reveals the background image here (http://www.bungieaerospace.com/images/splash/splashbg.jpg).
From there, I've increased levels and such, but it only looks like used parchment.
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Holy -Blam!- +KFY!!
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The background has changed. What does this mean?
We don't have any copies of the old background (if we do please inform me) so a picture of the site back then will have to do. Pulses background has changed too because his link is to a URL on the website.
Why would they change it? I can see no reason too. There must be something hidden inside it!
The most obvious change can be seen here:
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad332/scatcycle/mostobviousaerospace-1.png?t=1285281305)
In that corner there use to be what looked like a crease.
Attachments:
New
Old
The old picture is not of the full background, so you cannot see the crease that used to be there.
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I noticed on one part of the new background there appears to be a group of comets.
(http://i949.photobucket.com/albums/ad332/scatcycle/comets1.png?t=1285282337)
You can see the trails they are leaving. Anyone understand what this means?
Look in the attachment to see where on the background it is.
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It's just paper. Paper with dust and filth and water damage.:P
All I see changed is the fact that you can now view the background image...(didn't Pulse say earlier it wasn't possible?)
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It's just paper. Paper with dust and filth and water damage.:P
All I see changed is the fact that you can now view the background image...(didn't Pulse say earlier it wasn't possible?)
It was always possible...
I don't care about the new picture thats up. I care about bungie changing it. Why would they do it?
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It's just paper. Paper with dust and filth and water damage.:P
All I see changed is the fact that you can now view the background image...(didn't Pulse say earlier it wasn't possible?)
It was always possible...
I don't care about the new picture thats up. I care about bungie changing it. Why would they do it?
Because it's prettier?
Nowadays, paper textures are SUPER popular in design. Maybe they just found a better one.
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It kinda resembles the surface of mars.... :) I just thought I'd throw in more things for people to theorize about.
The SGP administration staff is not responsible for psychiatry bills resulting from fruitless attempts to find meaning in random image distortions.
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Its the new venture in promoting phone gaming by small developers...../ thread