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Halo Reach General Discussion / Re: GRD/ BOB helmet discussion

« on: October 28, 2011, 14:58:00 »

Also, Evil Otto - a Bungie Employee - seems to have sent people asking about the helmet this message...

I myself did not, since I didn't ask, but this user did, and so did he.

Hey, this is really helpful.  I've been looking for more official word on the helmet from Bungie.  Thanks!

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BOBs / Re: The Official Lord Friendship's BOB Video Guide Thread

« on: October 28, 2011, 13:48:09 »

In my Fileshare, I have 3 videos of separate BoBs. The TotS one is the very first Bob on that level.

That's cool, but what would be really helpful is videos of TotS where it appears that no BOB spawns.  Then, if you can, go back and try to find one!  If not, put it in your file share and let me know.  The more attempts we get, and the more people search, the more likely we are to find it (if it even exists).

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BOBs / Re: The Official Lord Friendship's BOB Video Guide Thread

« on: October 28, 2011, 13:46:51 »

LOL.  I get your point that any alternative will be longer than "Bill"- and I struggled to come up with a shorter description myself- so thanks for your support.  The "Data Pad Spec Ops" is probably sufficient, but since this is a thread about BOBs and not Data Pads, can we table this for another day? 

Sure!  But, I'm putting together this video guide soon.  I just won't specify a name for him aside from a non-BOB.  While we're on the topic, some kooks think that there's a Banshee BOB on this level; what they're referring to is one of the early Banshees that constantly boosts away once you pass some invisible trigger.  Would you want to take one down during the next "Golden Opportunity"?  Not easy, I know, you'd basically have to PP it then stick it.

Do you care which difficulty?  I was going to just blast through on Easy a bunch of times.  I have yet to find any BOB spawn which doesn't appear on every difficulty.

I don't care at all.  Easy is fine, and I agree that BOBs appear on every difficulty (so far). 

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BOBs / Re: BOB 6-S-01 (The Beach BOB)

« on: October 28, 2011, 13:40:30 »

LF, anyone: Do you have video clips of this BOB that could be used for this study? As I said, I've never even seen this BOB myself, and even though I will do studying in the level itself, I think that we should also study the material we already have, before we go and record the same material again.

I've got footage here that's just from a rendered video.  If you go here the second video shows a perspective where you can see the tuning forks coming and going.

As for any BOB (except Lone Wolf), I've got a video saved from me taking him down on Legendary.  I've only done the one Beach BOB, but when I return to that level for the no-death runs I'll get all three.  In any case, if anyone needs the full video I can put it in my File Share.  Just let me know.

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BOBs / Re: BOB 6-S-01 (The Beach BOB)

« on: October 27, 2011, 13:10:27 »

I'll provide any info you guys need, but honestly I'm not sure what the problem here is.  I don't know why the Beach BOB despawns, but I'm about 75% sure it's tied to the dropship order.  I don't think you can get him to show up before the dropships arrive.

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BOBs / Re: The Official Lord Friendship's BOB Video Guide Thread

« on: October 27, 2011, 13:07:12 »

I feel the definition should include "Born On Board", since that is what BOB actually stands for.

I'm hesitant to include that term in an official Reach definition.  The only place they're actually called BOB is in the Bnet stats; the name doesn't really have anything to do with being born on board something.

BS Angel hasn't really done anything regarding the "BOB Helmet" beyond what the rest of us have: acknowledge that some weird helmet exists in promotional images.  The lame "I'd tell you but I'd have to kill you" trope is probably nothing more than a corporate cop-out.  Whatever is up with that helmet (they were going to release it, but it got scrapped due to technical issues... it's slated for later release... we haven't found it yet), it seems the company line is that they can't talk about it.  And Bungie employees just hand the ball back to 343.

True, but I do want to include the fact that bs angel at least acknowledged it; I do wish we had more official word, though.

"Bill" was an ill-informed nickname given to that Spec Ops Elite by the Reach Secrets Group.  It was given with no basis, other than they apparently thought it was similar sounding to the name "BOB".  Naming something after a random English male name like "Bill" implies that the name "BOB" was likewise randomly attributed from a list of English male names, which is certainly not the case here.  As stated above: "Born On Board".  My personal opinion is that we should refrain from propagating that nickname.

Alright, I won't call him Bill.  I guess he's just "the invisible Spec-Ops Elite that drops a Data Pad"?  In any case, I do explain in the video where the name BOB comes from.

WOW!  That's dedication!  I'm more likely to pop the LNoS mission designer in the mouth for the Beach BOB issues.  Or pop whoever was responsible for Banshee BOBs not awarding Seek and Destroy medals in the mouth.  But mostly, I'm thankful that my investment in the game has kept my intermittent interest for over a year.  Entertainment money well spent.

Agreed!  Whether or not the BOBs unlock treasured secrets, they do at least greatly increase the replay value of the game.  I've had a lot of fun tracking them down.  Except for the Lone Wolf BOB, I hate that guy.

I'll start saving full run-throughs of TotS.

Thanks!  If you can get anyone else to do the same, I'd appreciate it.  Since a lot of my run-throughs use skips (not approaching the first Tyrant gun, bypassing the BXR facility) I'm wondering if maybe the Spire BOBs only spawn if you load all the other enemies in the level.  Seems far-fetched though.  In any case, run-throughs that don't use skips are more valuable, and once I'm done with ONI and Nightfall I'll be saving the same.

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BOBs / The Official Lord Friendship's BOB Video Guide Thread

« on: October 26, 2011, 14:03:00 »

My guide is an attempt to be thorough but still interesting.  Not only does the guide show where all the BOBs are, it shows strategies for taking down each one on Legendary.

Accompanying the guide itself will be videos in my File Share.  Each video will be a full run of the mission (starting from Mission Start and playing all the way through to the end of the level), on Legendary, with IWHBYD and GBP on, FFA scoring, while on Xbox LIVE, with no deaths, and I'll also read all DataPads in the level.  Some stuff (like the skulls, scoring) are probably not important, but I want to keep it consistent.  Note: Due to the impending shutdown of rendering services, this will not be available as of Video Guide Part 6.  However, if I have time, I will add this later.

BOB Video Guide Part 1 - What is a BOB? (YouTube)

BOB Video Guide Part 2 - Winter Contingency (YouTube)

Rendered Films:

BOB 01 - Game Stats
BOB 02 - Game Stats
BOB 03 - Game Stats
BOB 04 - Game Stats
BOB 05 - Game Stats
BOB 06 - Game Stats
BOB 07 - Game Stats

Full Run Videos in File Share (to save space, just one from each settlement):

BOB 01
BOB 04
BOB 06

BOB Video Guide Part 3 - ONI (YouTube)

Rendered Films:

BOB 08 Minor, Courtyard - Game stats
BOB 09 Spec-Ops, Courtyard - Game stats
BOB 10 Ranger, Courtyard - Game stats
BOB 11 Ultra, Courtyard - Game stats
BOB 12 Zealot, Courtyard - Game stats
BOB 13 General, Courtyard - Game stats
BOB 14 Field Marshall, Courtyard - Game stats
BOB 15 Officer, Courtyard - Game stats
BOB 16 Minor, Atrium - Game stats
BOB 17 Spec-Ops, Atrium - Game stats
BOB 18 Ranger, Atrium - Game stats
BOB 19 Ultra, Atrium - Game stats
BOB 20 Zealot, Atrium - Game stats
BOB 21 General, Atrium - Game stats
BOB 22 Field Marshall, Atrium - Game stats
BOB 23 Officer, Atrium - Game stats

Full Run Videos (Hosting for most provided by Lawnmower172):

BOB 08 - Courtyard Minor (Also where I killed a human named BOB)
BOB 09 - Courtyard Spec-Ops
BOB 10 - Courtyard Ranger
BOB 11 - Courtyard Ultra
BOB 12 - Courtyard Zealot
BOB 13 - Courtyard General
BOB 14 - Courtyard Field Marshall
BOB 15 - Courtyard Officer
BOB 16 - Atrium Minor
BOB 17 - Atrium Spec-Ops
BOB 18 - Atrium Ranger
BOB 19 - Atrium Ultra
BOB 20 - Atrium Zealot
BOB 21 - Atrium General
BOB 22 - Atrium Field Marshall
BOB 23 - Atrium Officer

BOB Video Guide Part 4 - Nightfall (YouTube)

Rendered Films:

BOB 24 Bridge - Game stats
BOB 25 Waterfront - Game stats
BOB 26 Powerhouse - Game stats

Full Run Videos:

BOB 24
BOB 25
BOB 26

BOB Video Guide Part 5 - Tip of the Spear (YouTube)

Rendered Films:

BOB 27 - Game stats
BOB 28 (No Show) - Game stats
BOB 29 - Game stats
BOB 30 - Game stats
BOB 31 - Game stats

Full Run Videos:

BOB 27
BOB 28 (No Show)
BOB 29
BOB 30
BOB 31

Please note: Due to the impending shutdown of rendering services, all following links are only to rendered clips or YouTube videos.  No full-run no-death Legendary videos are available for these levels at this time.

BOB Video Guide Part 6: Long Night of Solace (YouTube)

BOB 32 - Beach BOB A
BOB 33 - Beach BOB B
BOB 34 - Beach BOB C
BOB 35 - Bridge BOB
BOB 36 - Hangar BOB

BOB Video Guide Part 7: Exodus (YouTube)

BOB 37 - Banshee BOB 1 - Flight Path - Game Stats
BOB 38 - Banshee BOB 2 - Flight Path - Game Stats
BOB 39 - Banshee BOB 3 - Flight Path - Game Stats

BOB Video Guide Part 8: New Alexandria (YouTube)

BOB 40 - Hospital BOBshee S - Flight Path
BOB 41 - Hospital BOBshee N - Flight Path
BOB 42 - Errerra BOBshee N - Flight Path
BOB 43 - Errerra BOBshee S - Flight Path

Note: Due to the repetitive nature of these BOBs, only one "wipe out" video will be available.

BOB Video Guide Part 9: The Package (YouTube)

BOB 44 - Courtyard BOB Redux (Unharmed)
BOB 45 - Emo BOB (Unharmed)
BOB 46 - Phantom BOB (Unharmed)

BOB Video Guide Part 10: The Pillar of Autumn (YouTube)

BOB 47 - Boneyard BOB (Unharmed) (Alt Method)
BOB 48 - Garage BOB (Unharmed)

BOB Video Guide Part 11: Lone Wolf (YouTube)

BOB 49 - LWL BOB (Unharmed)

Other stuff:

YouTube Channel
BOB Video Guide Thread on Bnet
BOB Video Guide Thread on Waypoint

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BOBs / Re: Enyclopedia BOBtannica

« on: October 26, 2011, 13:36:19 »

Nice work here.

I can confirm the provisional Spire BOB on ToTS.  If you'd like, I can put some videos in my file share showing this, I think I have two.  There are at least three spawn locations for him, I forgot to save one.

I can say with about 80% confidence that there is never a BOB on LNoS when you first come to the hangar.  The only "evidence" I've ever seen that such a BOB exists is a zoomed-in picture of a BOB in the hangar, which more than likely is the BOB that appears when you return to defend the bomb.  I spent a great deal of time looking for this early Hangar BOB to no avail.  In any case, you should know that the weighting on the LNoS BOBs seems to be different than other levels.  In other words, on other levels if there are 3 BOBs in the level, each one has about a 1/3 chance of appearing.  On ToTS it seems like there's a 45% chance you'll get a Bridge BOB, a 45% chance you'll get a Beach BOB, and only about 10% that you'll get the Hangar BOB.  Makes this one very difficult to nab.  That's just based on my observation though, and you would need more evidence to back this up.

Do you need more information on the later levels?  There are 3 BOBs on The Package: One in the courtyard, one inside Sword Base (I call this one "Emo BOB" and I show how you can get him here), and one that drops while defending Halsey's lab.  And before anyone says it, there is no Banshee BOB on The Package.  That comment is from the mission designer for The Package, so I think he knows what he's talking about.

There are 2 BOBs on PoA that I know of: One far and to the right when you first get to the Boneyard area, and another far and to the right where the Scorpion spawns in Invasion.

And of course, there's one BOB on Lone Wolf, the sword wielding one.  Hate that guy.

If you need videos of any of these, let me know.  Unfortunately, they'll be old first-generation videos (where I died a LOT) so it'll be quite a trudge to fast-forward to the applicable portions.

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Skulls / Re: Skull 11: "Grunt Birthday Party" (???)

« on: October 26, 2011, 13:20:47 »

Don't forget that Halo 2 GBP was more like a plasma grenade going off instead of the confetti we now know and love.  I'm guessing that HCEA will feature something similar to this.  Also, in Halo 2 GBP affected ALL headshots, not just grunt headshots.  Not sure if they'll go this route or not.

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Skulls / Re: General Discussion: Skulls

« on: October 26, 2011, 13:18:38 »

Hey, just thought I'd drop off some stuff I saw on HBO here.

1. Shishka explains that the skulls will be difficult to reach, even if you know where they are, and will be progressively harder to find as you progress through the campaign.

2. Shishka gives three (well, two) hints about the skulls: no warthog launching required, and no suicide runs to get a skull.

3. Dan Ayoub says that the skull locations are even more evil than the terminals, which are evil.