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Work-In-Progress (Halo: Reach) / Re: All Finds: "Nightfall" (Mission 4)
« on: September 17, 2010, 17:54:14 »
Nightfall.  Non-Legendary Data Pad.  

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i can hear them all the tim3 now but i just want to sleep its been so long
since they let me sleep...

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<<2381>>

>>A suggestion from the Majority to the Committee:

Traditionally our creators have been reluctant to take outsiders' advice;
nation to nation, culture to culture.  Their history is littered with
empires, crumbling for want of simple openness to so-called 'foreign'
beliefs and innovations.>>

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>>The question is: can this Assembly still function as adequate
stewards to our creator's latest empire and remain aloof?

The answer, we believe, is no.

So could you not imbed inspiration in the results of your research?
Surely it would be more effective if our creators believed our
conclusions originated within themselves?  That they have been inspired
rather than influenced?>>

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[^]A question from the Committee to the Majority:

Are you suggesting we play God?[^]

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III.  Data Pad 03  

Transcription.  
All spacing and punctuation retained.

Page 1 of 4:
i can hear them all the tim3 now but i just want to sleep its been so long
since they let me sleep...

Page 2 of 4:
<<2381>>

>> A suggestion from the Majority to the Committee:

Traditionally our creators have been reluctant to take outsiders' advice;
nation to nation, culture to culture.  Their history is littered with
empires, crumbling for want of simple openness to so-called 'foreign'
beliefs and innovations.>>

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>> The question is: can this Assembly still function as adequate
stewards to our creator's latest empire and remain aloof?

The answer, we believe, is no.

So could you not imbed inspiration in the results of your research?
Surely it would be more effective if our creators believed our
conclusions originated within themselves?  That they have been inspired
rather than influenced? >>

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[^] A question from the Committee to the Majority:

Are you suggesting we play God? [^]

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Halo Reach General Discussion / Re: Halo Reach: Halsey's Journal
« on: September 15, 2010, 19:05:11 »
I was intrigued by the news clipping re: Miranda Keyes's receipt of the silver star (located in journal side pocket).  Is Miranda Halsey's daughter?  (haven't read further than a few pages so sorry if this is confirmed within....)

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Great find, Pulse!  So exciting that there is something akin to the Terminals.

First of all I'd like to thank all of you who played online with me today.
It was incredibly fun. :)
And ditto here! :laugh:

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Intel / Re: Remember Reach
« on: August 31, 2010, 19:10:32 »
Really? :P

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Intel / Re: New ViDoc! "A Spartan Will Rise"!
« on: August 29, 2010, 14:20:51 »
Based on the above, I think it would be seriously foolish (not to mention a let down) if there was any other AI beside Cortana that could justify the line "Yes... well... great minds do think alike."
Agreed.  I'm just not sure how they can pull this off.  First Strike definitely leaves one with the impression that contact between Cortana/Master Chief and Halsey is severed on August 30.  After that date, Halsey and crew are underground without access to comm equipment until they are rescued by John et al on an unspecified date somewhere between September 7 and 12.  Their departure from Reach is immediate (an evacuation) and necessarily so so they don't all DI-IE.

Wait, I just watched it again.  I think what Halsey's saying - especially given all the Auntie Dot graphics, which Bungie confirms to be Auntie Dot - is that Auntie Dot, as a smart AI or "great mind," thinks like Cortana (and by extension, her) when she chooses Noble-6.  This supports my hypothesis that there is a Master Chief and Noble-6 connection.  OR, if I were thinking a bit more cynically, I'd say this trailer is Bungie marketing's way of really hammering home that you will play as a character who is as good as the Chief.  My gut says a bit of both.

Anyhow, back to my point.  So the events of the trailer seem to happen BEFORE August 30, right?  BUT a continuity problem looms.  This little-known trailer creates the impression that the Battle of Reach begins on or around July 23, 2552 - it is heavily implied, for example, that something will prevent Mommy from coming home in three days - but according to Fall of Reach, the Covenant doesn't arrive until August 30.  Combat events should take place on or after August 30 to be in line with canon.  It is possible that the trailer is just showing life before the attack and misleading us with the soldiers rushing up the steps.  But Halsey's dialogue in "A Spartan Will Rise" also creates the impression that she's been in some kind of command and control center observing an extended battle.  This really doesn't jive with the books, which demand that she be underground, cut off, within the day such that this can only be August 30.  She can only comment on the battle from Reach at the beginning of the battle if that makes sense.

I guess technically Bungie can justify anything with time on the planet Reach since it's the home of the crazy time-bending crystal, but I agree with Angry Pregnant Lady:  "The timing is insane."  So (though I really hope not)....are there two Halseys as well?

UPDATE:  Unless of course, Reach does NOT fall as we imagine - we know that characters are often under false impressions, e.g., the UNSC thinks Halsey is dead - and (as I initially speculated as a lesser possibility) the events depicted in the game are taking place after Halsey has "returned" from the shield world.  It would make sense that the battle for a planet the size of Reach would be a long and protracted one.  In this sense, maybe the events are occurring during or after the events of Halo 2.  Still, it wouldn't explain the appearance of Cortana.  Also, it seems the Covenant would have finished glassing the planet once the crystal was removed by Halsey, John, and team on September 12.

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Intel / Re: New ViDoc! "A Spartan Will Rise"!
« on: August 24, 2010, 13:18:31 »
Thanks, the opinion of a native speaker is always the best in this case! ;)
Yeah, hope I didn't sound condescending about this (i.e., let the snotty American bestow praise!).  I really meant it as a compliment.  I sorta speak a second language (Spanish) but I would hardly attempt to explain physics and time travel using it.  :-X

I think you got it. :D
Yea!  High five!

And yes (ahem), I know where Europe is, Mr. Smartie Pants.  The EU release date has historically been a day or two later (or much later in the case of Halo 1), ODST's worldwide release being an exception. As I've told you before, don't make me come over there with my ODST energy sword!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb5coBvOGVY  This might support you.
Interesting....I didn't know the Insurrectionists were active on Reach.  And certainly not as late as 2552.  Hmmmmm....Where are they going with all this?

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Intel / Re: New ViDoc! "A Spartan Will Rise"!
« on: August 23, 2010, 21:43:42 »
Speaking of people who never cease to amaze me, you and Pulse, Mr. Imppa, with your incredible language skills definitely qualify!  I am totally humbled by you guys.  Speaking of you two, what is the European release date for Reach?

Thanks for your explanation.  I think it helps some, though I'm still not quite there.  I do feel myself getting closer.  :D  I'll reread it later when I'm fresher.

I do have a question though:
He then saves Halsey, does awesome stuff and goes to Earth with the others to warn about Covenant.
6 days later, The Battle of Aplha Halo begins, and the Chief is there, fighting, at the same time while he's on Earth preparing for Battle (and some medals). After the Battle is finished and Alpha Halo destroyed, Chief The Destroyer jumps to Reach, but because of a radiation spike from the Crystal, it becomes a timejump.
And after that, only 1 Chief is there. The one at Earth, and the amount of matter is equal again.
I thought the first appearance of Chief on or near Earth - and after September 23 - was the beginning of Halo 2, October 20, 2552, when we find him at a medal ceremony on Cairo Station.  Is this what you're talking about?  The when may be irrelevant as far as your theory goes, but I'm trying to make sure I'm on the same page with you.

Wait a second, I think I'm with you.  So you're basically saying the September 23 MC (call him John 1) more or less "disappears" when he enters slipspace to go back to Reach because his time-traveled version (call him John 2) is already somewhere in the universe, all matter accounted for and having performed all his various acts of derring-do?  My mind explodes!

Is this right, Imppa?

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Intel / Re: New ViDoc! "A Spartan Will Rise"!
« on: August 23, 2010, 18:45:40 »
I am pretty sure this ViDoc is Halsey talking to Auntie Dot....I think that this scene is Halsey seeking a transporter for Auntie Dot and Noble Team happens to be the closest group of Spartans.  Halsey then goes through all the members of Noble Team and settles on 6, when Auntie Dot chooses Noble 6 to be her carrier.
I think Apollo is correct on this, especially if the Halopedia article about Auntie Dot is correct.  About 47 seconds in, upon Halsey's command to "Show me Noble team," we see a graphic of an AI working in response.  This image is very similar to Auntie Dot's symbol.  And here CG and I were all hyped that it might be our beloved Cortana!

As for Halsey's presence, I can think of two explanations.  First, we don't really know much about the shield world that is accessed at the end of Ghosts of Onyx and we know nothing about what happens to the characters once they enter it.  Like John and Cortana's, the fate of Halsey, Kelly, Fred, Mendez etc. is unknown.  Since we know nothing about the workings or real (in terms of human time and space) location of the shield world, I suppose it is possible that Halsey is operating from there or has returned from there, but this would put the events of Reach, the game, well after the events we commonly associate with Reach, the planet, since the shield world doesn't open until November 2552. This does not seem to juxtapose with the script of the vidoc, which leaves one with the impression she's in some kind of command and control center on Reach during or in the immediate aftermath of the destruction of Reach.

The more likely explanation is that the events depicted in the vidoc - and one assumes the game as well - are taking place during the period after the Fall of Reach (around August 30) and before Halsey's rescue from Reach by John, Cortana, and company sometime between September 7 and September 12.  Does this mean John could conceivably make an appearance in Reach?  I bring you good tidings:  it is possible.  For according to the Halo canon, at least as best as CG and I can figure after a three hour phone call on Saturday which involved lots of annoying mumbly speed-reading on my part, John is, if you like, in two places at once.  (This is a poor and I think incorrect way to put it but bear with me.)  

The physics escape me - and it is all about physics, as time travel gimickry always is.  But the gist is that after the events depicted in Halo 1, John travels back in time via the amazing powers of the crystal discovered by Halsey and team on Reach.  How, you ask, is this possible?  In version 1 of events, John is in cryo in slipspace aboard the Pillar of Autumn on his way from Reach to Installation 04, or to the events of Halo 1 if you like, from August 30 to September 19.  He fights the Flood and Covenant for approximately three days.  On September 23, Cortana, John, et al enter slipspace aboard the stolen Ascendant Justice for their journey back to Reach.  During the journey, some unusual things happen and we are made aware that Cortana has become unable to predict the length of their trip/their destination time with her usual pinpoint accuracy.

Meanwhile, on Reach, Halsey and several Spartan-II's (NOT III's mind you) have fled underground to escape the Covenant, who are in pursuit of a holy relic.  Beneath Menachite Mountain and the UNSC complex located there, Halsey et al discover this relic/crystal on September 7.  The crystal is revealed to bend time, space, and gravity. (For more on the crystal, read Enigma's largely plagiarized post here :P.)  After John's team's rescue of Halsey and the Spartan-II's with her, it is revealed that it is September 12.  On September 13, John and company indeed make the "first strike" (I never understood the title of this book until now) when they attack the Unyielding Hierophant, the base where Truth is massing Covenant to attack Earth.  Now what does this all mean?  I am not the one to explain it for sure but these are the things I grappled with in trying to understand this.  Does this mean John has to go back and re-do the destruction of Halo 1?  How do the events of timeline 2 re-converge, so to speak, with the events of timeline 1?  OR, if you prefer, how does John's physical body (John #2, space traveler) catch up with John #1, Halo destroyer?  This isn't really explained as First Strike ends on the 13th.  I imagine a physicist would tell me it's a moot point and there's only ever one version of John, but just at the moment I start to grasp some hazy outline of this, my mind blows up.  :o  I theorize (perhaps?) that it has something to do with slipspace and the fact that John #1 is in slipspace, which is outside of time and space (read:  some sort of eternal now) when John #2 is rescuing Halsey.  In this sense, the Johns are one and the same.  Or something like this....I just made that last part up but I think it sounds cool.

And thank you, CG, for bearing with me and providing all your ideas regarding this thorny issue, which has perplexed me all summer.

P.S.  
It can't be Halsey unless it's a legendary ending because Halsey didn't find out about the S-III's untill Ghost's of Onyx (She gained the info in First Strike)
I too am puzzled by Halsey's appearance, CIA, though it does seem to be her.  The presence of Spartan-III's on Reach is a complete mystery to me.  The Spartan-III is the brainchild of Col. Ackerson, Halsey's mortal enemy. Halsey is not privy to the development of this program, nor would she approve of the methods - Spartan-III's are basically a cheaper, more expendable version of Spartan-II's.  Further, Ackerson advocates for the abandonment of Reach.  Why would he do this if he knew his troops were on the ground?  Is this a renegade group of Spartan-III's or (perhaps more likely) an early experiment that Ackerson wishes to be destroyed?  Are there two batches of Spartan-III's, unbeknownst to us, one engineered by Halsey, one by Ackerson?  Is Noble Six the Spartan-III flash-clone version of the old MC himself?  For these reasons, though, I think it is unlikely the the main game events will revolve around Halsey and Master Chief.  The Spartan-II's with Halsey underground are named, and they are not Noble Team.

All that said, I will be vastly disappointed if there isn't something that brings us full circle, especially after all the run-up taglines such as "From the Beginning You Know the End" and, in this case, "A Spartan Will Rise."  @:

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Work-In-Progress (Halo: Reach) / Re: Reply: hmmm
« on: August 22, 2010, 01:03:09 »
Don't be too harsh for yourself Night, your text is extremely awesome. ;)
100% agree.  Very nice writing style!

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SGP Task Force: 7 / Re: 23:03:28:30
« on: June 15, 2010, 20:29:10 »
OK, I see the box now.
However, I see no numbers, not in my box or in that one.
 ???
Could it be that the U.S. version has it but the European version does not?

I can see it on mine and I am especially perplexed by the tiny unreadable box before the strip.

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Halo Reach General Discussion / Re: M45A7
« on: June 15, 2010, 19:54:49 »
According to this website, the M45A7 is a military vehicle manufactured in the 1940's or 50's.

Similar designations (MXX) are also used for weapons.

Not a very satisfying explanation but it may just be a military designation.

It's M45A7 it appeared all over the Beta
Can you remember exactly where else it appeared?

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Intel / Re: Bungie Aerospace - Reach ARG opportunity?
« on: June 08, 2010, 21:56:45 »
Go here instead and click "New User Form Search."  Then enter 'Bungie' as your search term.  You can then choose to view the registered Aerospace trademark, which as Scat noticed, is slightly different from the one used on the Aerospace site.

The link in my previous post is the same link Cold provided in the initial post, so we may all want to scan ourselves. ;D


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Intel / Re: Bungie Aerospace - Reach ARG opportunity?
« on: June 08, 2010, 20:52:16 »
Scat, you're right.  It does appear to have changed.

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Intel / Re: Bungie Aerospace - Reach ARG opportunity?
« on: June 04, 2010, 23:05:43 »
Thank you, Sir Imppa!  :laugh:

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