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Dunder Moose:
There is a J sign that has me puzzled. In sector 5 there are J signs with code above the J. Here's a couple looks:
http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=98938695
And here's another sign in the same sector
http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=98938339
At first I thought it was definitely a Baudot code, but it only has four bits instead of the standard five. I though it might be Braille, but those are only three deep and two wide. So, one less than Braille, one more than Baudot. Is it significant that Baudot's code is based on an earlier code developed by Carl Friedrich Gauss and Wilhelm Weber in 1834? There is a thank you to the Gauss Ammunition people in the end credits.
I'll keep on working on it. I wonder if the barrier codes might provide the missing dots in the Baudot somehow? Has anyone seen any more of these dot images in the other sectors? And does anyone else have the UNSC Eagle image with Spoiler instead of the picture in your Bungie.net gallery for in game photos?
Here is a web page with a Baudot code key about halfway down.
http://www.diycalculator.com/popup-h-paper.shtml
ColdGlider:
We knew about the banners and the possible codes therein, but we didn't know about gauss code.
Brilliant connection with the credits!
My initial research is a bit disheartening. Gauss' system (actually Gauss/Weber) was originally based on needle rotations (left or right). A sequence of rotations (between 1-4) encoded a letter or number. Thirty different codes were possible. The disheartening part is that there are essentially three possible values in each position (nothing, left, right). With only dots and blanks, the banners don't convey the difference between the "left" and "right" of the Gauss/Weber code. You cannot assume that blank spaces are one or the other, because you won't be able to discern the difference between a series of two blanks and a series of three!
The system is still in use for historical reasons- a laser beam sends Gauss/Weber encoded messages by mapping left and right to short pulses and long pulses in Goettingen.
I also compared the banner codes against the Baudot encoding in case it was possible to drop one of the five lines and still convey a full alphabet. Using the standard encoding, it is not.
I wouldn't expect the barrier codes to come into play here. But expectations are dangerous! Thanks for revitalizing this topic! And welcome to the SGP!
Dunder Moose:
Thanks ColdGlider. Good to be here!
Omeganuepsilon:
I noted a similar thing with the J code but didn't get as far, this prompted me to do some reading on Gauss(bored...)
well after some fruitless reading, I followed a link to a link and found this...
http://www.mathsisfun.com/numbers/convert-base.php?to=quaternary
there's a pulldown to switch between any given number of a code
The thing about the J code...it could be 5 bits 01234, or the empty column could just be a space and end up being 0123 for the rest.
I posted this in that other thread somewhere, but it could be useful also:
http://home2.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/
That's a code convertor, but not numbers, it handles text as well, IE
Omeganuepsilon = 01001111 01101101 01100101 01100111 01100001 01101110 01110101 01100101 01110000 01110011 01101001 01101100 01101111 01101110
The J code, could be the conversion of a conversion, but I'm too tired.
ColdGlider:
Thanks for dropping in again, Omega! And thanks for the base conversion link!
I'm going to lock this thread since the older one has more info at this point. So please resume the conversation over here.
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