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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2009, 12:49:38 »
i wish... but we cant get the third one due to deloading. :-[
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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2009, 12:54:07 »
Okay, so two j banners in the henge and only two plinths at a time.  Let's look at those Plinths and see if there's any marking on them that might associate them with the banners.  If there is a connection we could get the correct plinths into the henge and see....
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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2009, 01:03:33 »
I still haven't figured out why you call it J Banner 7. Could someone please explain?
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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2009, 02:03:02 »
Due to being stuck in a place without my laptop, I can't make a nifty explanatory image.  So I'll have to make a cheesy one (see attached).

The Problem:  How to easily recognize the different banners?
The Solution:  Find something unique among the three known versions.
My Implementation:  Look at the dot codes in columns.  The fourth column is different in all three J-Banners.

The Problem:  How to name the banners?
The Solution:  Make the names indicative of each banner's unique quality.
My Implementation:  Use the fourth column.  Map the dots to bits.  This will produce a unique number.

Here is what the fourth column looks like in all three banners if you substitute 1 for a dot and 0 for a blank:
J-Banner 7:
1
1
1
0

J-Banner 0:
0
0
0
0

J-Banner 15:
1
1
1
1

Now, convert these columns to rows:

J-Banner 7:   0111
J-Banner 0:   0000
J-Banner 15: 1111

We now have binary data.  Last step- convert to decimal:

J-Banner 7:   0111 = 7
J-Banner 0:   0000 = 0
J-Banner 15: 1111 = 15

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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2009, 13:21:40 »
So the two J Banners in Squidhenge are identical.  J-0's over the doors leading into the courtyard. 

That squashes my idea of the banners being scan points for the Oliphaunts as they go around town collecting garbage.  Maybe they signify the clearance codes for the different entry points the Jotun employees may use.  At work I have to badge into a turnstyle to get in the door, maybe these codes indicate which employees can go where. Probly not.  They are Asklon buildings and Jotun just builds the Oliphaunt, it doesn't run the trash services.  Vergil would. Or maybe Asklon owns the building and leases offices to Jotun.  Hmmm.

(Sigh) Maybe they just look cool...
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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2009, 13:51:09 »

Oh, thanks! :)
I actually always read the J Banners like the dots made images, like the V in the beginning of your attachment's code. (was that understandable? o.O)
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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2009, 15:29:04 »

Oh, thanks! :)
I actually always read the J Banners like the dots made image, like the V in the beginning of your attachment's code. (was that understandable? o.O)

Actually....It was.

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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2010, 16:22:17 »
Still been hammering away on this.  Looking at the images I was put in mind of the quipu that use knots in string to signify meaning.  Unfortunately nobody has ever really deciphered the quipu. but they most likely use a 7 bit arrangement for knots/no knots.  That lead me down a trail to a place we've already been.

The next thing I am excited about is the ARK01 code that team vergil uses.  The layout got me thinking, what if the j-banners work the same way? Each dot is a 1 and strings of them add up with the open space being the separators.

So J-15 would give us
1 2 1 2 4 1 1 5 2
1 2 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 1
1 1 1 4 2 2 4
7 1 1 2 2 2 1 2

J7 is:
1 2 1 2 4 1 1 6 1
1 5 2 2 2 3 2 1 1
1 1 1 4 2 2 1 2
3 1 1 2 1 2 1 2

And J0 would be
1 1 1 2 3 1 1 1 1 1
1 1 6 15 1
1 1 2 1 1 2 2 1 2
3 2 2 1 2 1 2

I'm going to be working on these numbers but I don't want to be the only one.  Come on team.  Do they map to letters?  To a polybius square (bungie's would probably be 7 by 7). Let's knock the cobwebs off and get those labcoats back on!
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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2010, 20:09:41 »
I'm going to be working on these numbers but I don't want to be the only one.  Come on team.  Do they map to letters?  To a polybius square (bungie's would probably be 7 by 7). Let's knock the cobwebs off and get those labcoats back on!
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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2010, 21:22:32 »
Hmmmm...Why can't I find more than one of the Banners in our gallery, or anywhere in the forums? ???

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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2010, 14:25:44 »
Try here.
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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2010, 19:39:07 »
Try here.
Ah, yes. Thanx.
I have been wondering this: From the Genet Coup Register plate Egg, we know that The Halo 3: ODST team was co-operating with The Halo: Reach team. Therefore, could it be possible that there are more things that relate somehow to Reach?
Could this and/or some else of our mysteries have some kind of counterpart in Reach that helps us solve the mystery?

Speaking of Reach, perhaps we should get a Reach forum here...

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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2010, 17:38:24 »
I may be off a little... Thought it might be worth doing

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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2010, 19:09:01 »
The red is were the 2 over lay each other. There is only 2 J-banners...right?

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Re: J Banner 7
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2010, 09:53:53 »
The red is were the 2 over lay each other. There is only 2 J-banners...right?
No...?